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20.03.2017
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Pia Margrethe
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Atheista
21.03.2018 10:18:21
Pia Margrethe

Dear Sandi -

You write that Trump is doing exactly as he promised. IS he building a wall that Mexico will pay for? Is he making america great again (has he done anything but damage US standing in the world)? Has he... well, what exactly DID he promise? To clean out the swamp? Swamps provide important environmental services. He has turned a poorly drained swamp into a cesspool. Has he hired 'the best people' to work in his government? Taken on Wall Street (as he promised)? Brought peace to the Middle East (thanks Jared!) - he has torpedoed any possibility of a two state solution to the occupation by Israel of Palestinian lands with his reckless recognition of Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel. ('I don't care', he declaimed 'if it's a one state or a two state solution': a meaningless statement.)  
On the other hand: he has attacked allies; protected and deflected criticism of authoritarians world-wide (Dutarte likes him, Orban is well-disposed towards him, the Polish government admires him, and Putin - need I say?); he has removed the US from the discussions of the world's greatest problem - global warming. (He looks out and sees snow and denies the overwhelming scientific evidence for a changing climate. He supports fossil fuels including the filthy coal industry, despite its employment of far fewer people than the clean energy industries.) He kow-tows to wealth and power. And to the NRA (which represents both). He has said there are 'good people on both sides' in response to the Neo-Nazi, Alt-right, KKK acts of terrorism in Charlottesville. He attacks the weak at every opportunity: the poor, the minorities, the parents of deceased soldiers, the differently abled. 

The man is uneducated, uneducable and vile in every way. He is functionally illiterate and woefully and proudly ignorant.There was a time when people hoped that the office would humble and change him - the majority have given up on that hope and the minority don't care.

Please turn out the lights when you leave. *drops the mic*

21.03.2018 10:18:21
La ruta nos aportó otro paso natural.
Forudsigelse er meget vanskelig, især hvis det handler om fremtiden
(Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future) - Niels Bohr
As regards your life: why make a tragedy of a one act play? - Dan O'Neil
DeeDee88
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Freethinkerland
21.03.2018 11:28:39
DeeDee88

Sandi Lut wrote:
Isn't this getting a bit out of control? Why attack each other this way? I love a good discussion and I don't mind when things get heated but this is not a discussion anymore. It is more a fight in which some people think they have all the wisdom and knowledge in the world. One person in particular (I shall not name names) is ranting without putting any decent argument on the table. And accusing others of being on drugs or something which is a really low blow.

Yes Trump is at best a controversial president. But he is doing exactly as he promised he would do. Something no other elected president anywhere does or has done. I do not agree on anything with Trump but he promised the American people some things and he got elected for it. And now he is doing exactly as he promised. No protest or discussion will change that.

I think Sandi is totally correct!
People can think about him what the news tell them...but some things he has done pretty good so far.
Just one point more...that the USA finally made a point...Jerusalem is the capital of Israel!
we have tried to solve this conflict since maybe 60 years...and all those lazy politicians failed!
Many political scientists think...that this was the right and maybe best and only step!
And even such democratic news can't deny this! that is why you do not hear much about it:)
But i guess some bimbos here think differently:))))


21.03.2018 11:28:39
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, but i'm not sure about the universe yet."
Sandi Lut
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Antitheocra
21.03.2018 13:49:59
Sandi Lut

Dear Pia
I never claimed he was a good man or anything. Personally I am disgusted with everything about the man. But that is irrelevant. The man is president and there is nothing we can do but hope he doesn't start a war.

I'll turn off the lights when I leave...

21.03.2018 13:49:59
Happiness is inside yourself

Pia Margrethe
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Atheista
21.03.2018 22:17:30
Pia Margrethe

Sandi - we can and should resist. Further, his 'election' is suspect, at best. He lost the popular vote by more than 3 million. Were it not for the anti-democratic nature of the US Constitution, he would not be in the office. Nor, for that matter, would George Bush II have been.

DeeDee - just because you and Trump say something is true does not make it so. My Israeli friends are as horrified by Trump as I. And as horrified by Netanyahu, another of your heroes, I'm sure. Along with Putin, Xi and Orban?

21.03.2018 22:17:30
La ruta nos aportó otro paso natural.
Forudsigelse er meget vanskelig, især hvis det handler om fremtiden
(Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future) - Niels Bohr
As regards your life: why make a tragedy of a one act play? - Dan O'Neil
c.j. tsang
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Atheista
21.03.2018 23:36:43
c.j. tsang

i don't like him, he seems to be a sexist pig

21.03.2018 23:36:43


DeeDee88
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Freethinkerland
22.03.2018 03:31:51
DeeDee88

Pia Margrethe wrote:
Sandi - we can and should resist. Further, his 'election' is suspect, at best. He lost the popular vote by more than 3 million. Were it not for the anti-democratic nature of the US Constitution, he would not be in the office. Nor, for that matter, would George Bush II have been.

DeeDee - just because you and Trump say something is true does not make it so. My Israeli friends are as horrified by Trump as I. And as horrified by Netanyahu, another of your heroes, I'm sure. Along with Putin, Xi and Orban?

 
Bullshit!!!
The Israelis and the people from Palestina are tired of this fight! Most of them want a solution!
So Trump's decision (besides...if you do not know...this was always the agenda of ALL US presidents (!) to except Jerusalem as the capital!) is an option..and maybe the best so far!
And it is nonsense...that Israel could be afraid of Trump or the USA! those are there biggest supporters and would never allow the muslims to take any control! What you say is just fake to "prove" your silly ideas!
And sorry...you are just some democratic voter....everything you write is just bullshit and only against Trump or logic:) expept sometimes...that even other prties can do something right!
Actually i was more horrorfied by H. Clinton than any of those little silly dictators who play their silly games!
I just remember what she told in those lousy TV debates about Russia & China!
But tell me...what is your solution with Jerusalem or Israel? Should we wait another 60 years? or maybe 600???
you just tell me in every post...how bad is Trump....is that your solution?!
Tell me..what would you do?
If you do not have any idea...give others a chance and stop talking nonsense the whole day!
In this Jerusalem theme...Trump made a step...which could be some answer! we have to wait...what will happen. but many political scientists think...that this could be some answer finally!
You just have to expect...that even some other people than your democrats can do something right!
I for example think....Obama's health insurance is a very good thing! it is the only social and ethic way how humanity can life in future! that all people should help each other!
Why do you can't let go and give up your silly behavior and trust other parties?!
I mean...you can write and behave like you want...that is totally ok...but with this childish stubborn behavior...you make a fool of yourself:)

22.03.2018 03:31:51
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, but i'm not sure about the universe yet."
Pia Margrethe
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Posts: 15842
Atheista
22.03.2018 07:57:56
Pia Margrethe

DeeDee: Do you mean 'accept'? Do you mean to make our disagreements personal? 

Since: 1. I have no television; 2. I did not see the American debates of more than a year ago; 3. I am not able to vote in American elections (I was a member of the Socialistisks Folkeparti, although today I would not be) your diatribe makes no sense to me.

The United Nations, by a large majority, objects to moving the capitol of Israel to Jerusalem.

Except for the evidence of his mysogyny in his treatment of Mrs. Clinton, your opionion of her is irrelevant in terms of the theme of this thread, which is whether or not Trump is an adequate president, not whether or not you approve of him in preference to another candidate. Your insistence on bringing her into your arguments is deflection.

I call 'em as I see 'em.

22.03.2018 07:57:56
La ruta nos aportó otro paso natural.
Forudsigelse er meget vanskelig, især hvis det handler om fremtiden
(Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future) - Niels Bohr
As regards your life: why make a tragedy of a one act play? - Dan O'Neil
DeeDee88
Level 84
Status: Citizen
Sex Appeal: 470180
Reputation: 75273
Posts: 1208
Freethinkerland
22.03.2018 14:46:53
DeeDee88

Finally you have learned a bit:)
Although many more countries will follow the USA and their embassy to Jerusalem.
(I hope you know that the UN is an organisations of many countries).
So...but if you think...that Trump and the republican politics are so evil...why would they all move now?
Do you think all those countries want to bring harm to Israel now?
Or could it be...that Trump's decision could be a good step?
(remember: as i told you earlier...that step was always the agenda of ALL american presidents! (the last 60 years))
And if Trump and all other american presidents are so evil....again...what would be your answer to that Israel/Palestina problem?
Talking for another 60...or 600 years without any development?!
Again: if you do not have any answers, then do not blame Trump or the USA for this step!!!

22.03.2018 14:46:53
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, but i'm not sure about the universe yet."
Pia Margrethe
Level 71
Status: Citizen
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Reputation: 109150
Posts: 15842
Atheista
22.03.2018 19:17:03
Pia Margrethe

DeeDee -

With the exception of Poland, no nation in the EU supports the decision to move the embassy to Jerusalem. 
The occupation of both the Palestinian part of the city and the West Bank are in clear contravention of UN resolutions.
You ask what I would do? I would declare Jerusalem an international city, home to the 3 Abramic religions and capitol of no country. I would remove Israeli settlements from the west bank. I would grant full civil rights to the indigenous Palestinians within the state of Israel. I would jail Netanyahu.
At least it's a programme.

Oh.. and don't patronize me.

22.03.2018 19:17:03
La ruta nos aportó otro paso natural.
Forudsigelse er meget vanskelig, især hvis det handler om fremtiden
(Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future) - Niels Bohr
As regards your life: why make a tragedy of a one act play? - Dan O'Neil
Bebe92583
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Antitheocra
23.03.2018 04:04:25
Bebe92583

Pia Margrethe wrote:


With the exception of Poland, no nation in the EU supports the decision to move the embassy to Jerusalem. 
The occupation of both the Palestinian part of the city and the West Bank are in clear contravention of UN resolutions.
You ask what I would do? I would declare Jerusalem an international city, home to the 3 Abramic religions and capitol of no country. I would remove Israeli settlements from the west bank. I would grant full civil rights to the indigenous Palestinians within the state of Israel. I would jail Netanyahu.
At least it's a programme.

Oh.. and don't patronize me.

 You are correct there was almost zero support for Trumps Unilateral Declaration of Jerusalem as Israels's Capitol and almost zero support for moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and in fact both statements brought sharp condemnation for the US at the UN Security Council.The Palestinians have stated that as a result of The Unilateral Statements from Trump the US is no longer welcome at any peace talks between Palestine and Israel.I agree Netanyahu should be jailed for his crimes against Israel.

23.03.2018 04:04:25
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