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Is it acceptable to host contests that exclude players based on sexual orientation?

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18.06.2020
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Channing
peeslurper69
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Atheista
18.06.2020 23:43:30
peeslurper69

lmao idk theyr downvoting a lot in here so ig they just dont like when gays have self respect or smth lol 

18.06.2020 23:43:30
your reluctant optimist 
Alexstrasza
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Agnostica
19.06.2020 00:01:27
Alexstrasza

Downvoting is BL's national sport. Hit me!

19.06.2020 00:01:27
Such misplaced zeal... Their eyes remain closed to the true path. Not like you... my devoted Chosen...
PlushKlavier
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Reasonopia
19.06.2020 00:33:39
PlushKlavier

peeslurper69 wrote:
i know you mean well plushklavier but i don’t think comparing LGBT ppl holding an LGBT only pride contest to a kid’s coloring contest or band merch stuff is a fair and accurate comparison. logically it adds up, yes, but it disregards the nuance of LGBT history. because a cishet only contest would not be okay, but a LGBT only contest is because of the power dynamic between those two groups. never has there been a time in history where cishet people were systemically oppressed, unlike LGBT people who continue to face issues today. again, totally understand where you were coming from but it’s important not to skip over that very, very important factor.
Yes of course, it's a very important factor, I thought it was important to emphasize as well that it's a common practice for a lot of contests and that they shouldn't feel excluded or discriminated against for not being able to participate in a contest because of this, but the history behind our community is very important too, I think the people before me explained that very well :)

19.06.2020 00:33:39

DeeDeeSims
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Reasonopia
19.06.2020 04:51:33
DeeDeeSims

As a transgender woman myself I have to admit that it’s all very confusing. There are way too many terms and labels being thrown around or assigned to certain people. I am a person before I am anything else and trying to be politically correct all of the time is very difficult if not impossible. My motto has always been live & let live... Be happy and friendly and try to make others happy. Seeing all of the confusion about different labels is just sad and defeats the purpose.

19.06.2020 04:51:33
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Classy Joe
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Reasonopia
19.06.2020 05:12:24
Classy Joe

I'm a straight male who sometimes questions his sexuality and I don't care about LGBT only contests. I support LGBTQ rights myself. Contests for certain groups is fine in my eyes.

19.06.2020 05:12:24
                                                          
Lil' George Bubblegum
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19.06.2020 10:19:51
Lil' George Bubblegum

Imagine thinking you're oppressed for being unable to participate in a contest
This post was brought to you by the "I literally can't participate in 80% of DQFCs" gang

19.06.2020 10:19:51
DeeDeeSims
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Reasonopia
19.06.2020 15:13:22
DeeDeeSims

 I think PRIDE should be about being proud of who you are. It shouldn't matter what gender you are or identify as or what your sexual preferences are...  It should be an inclusive celebration where everyone is welcome... Less Arguing equals More Fun

19.06.2020 15:13:22
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Mona Elizabeth
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Atheista
19.06.2020 17:59:38
Mona Elizabeth

I never thought I would see the day where someone who is a member of the LGBT community would have a problem with spaces meant exclusively for LGBT folk, but I guess it had to happen eventually. The contest is open to you, Channing, because you've made it very clear that you are bisexual (identifying as straight does not change your actual sexuality), so what's the big deal? I haven't seen any cishet people upset with the contest, and they're the ones being 'discriminated' against according to you. BL is a place I would definitely expect to host contests that uplift marginalized and minority groups, so I don't understand why you think it goes against what BL stands for. Should cishet people also expect to have pride parades in real life? (This question undoubtedly holds more weight than the one regarding the BL pride contest, but I think the comparison still stands)
Now, Channing, I have a small personal message for you, as I often find myself struggling with my bisexuality as well. I am not out to my own parents, as I often hear them say frightening and disgusting things about the LGBT community in general. THANK YOU for all of the volunteering/donating/other work you do for the LGBT community. Please do not take the first part of this comment as an attack, but rather a plea for you to understand why spaces made exclusively for LGBT folk like you and I are so important. 

19.06.2020 17:59:38
With love from beyond the grave, Mona Elizabeth
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Channing
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Freethinkerland
19.06.2020 18:06:06
Channing

I appreciate everyone's words. But this post was supposed to focus on inclusion/exclusion in contests only in BL. I did not know that themes for any contest could include/exclude BL citizens based on factors like gender, sexual orientation etc. I apologize for singling out the current ongoing contest.

My question was not only answered but so many of you were kind enough to explain further to help me understand that it is not discrimination but means of appreciation and support for specific groups. 

If you wish to talk about LGBT rights, history, Pride, etc or how "real" life works, please create another thread for it. 

Again, I thank everyone for sharing!


19.06.2020 18:06:06

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19.06.2020 18:12:59
Baseie Brussel

i just cant believe this post

19.06.2020 18:12:59
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