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Is it acceptable to host contests that exclude players based on sexual orientation?

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18.06.2020
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Channing
Juggalo Rights
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Atheista
18.06.2020 19:45:55
Juggalo Rights

uhhh... yeah? it would be totally okay? men can absolutely support female empowerment, but allowing men to be front and center in it kind of defeats the purpose? im saying this as a man.

18.06.2020 19:45:55
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torrenoia
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Atheista
18.06.2020 19:48:13
torrenoia

hey channing did you have an issue with the himbo only fashion contest too lmao

18.06.2020 19:48:13
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Channing
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Freethinkerland
18.06.2020 19:48:55
Channing

misogynist wrote:
the problem is that it is not a pride parade. there is a thread for that, if you want to make a look and post it there for people to see. but as a cishet person i don't think its fair you participate in a contest for lgbt people. i personally cannot see why you would want to participate if you arent lgbt. pride is not a party for you to wear rainbows for one or a few days a year and then go back to not fearing for your life. your participation would make pride seem like a costume. for us it is our whole life every day of the year. i am not discriminating against you for being cishet, no one is saying its wrong to be cishet, you just have no place in this contest unless you are lgbt. my point is that we are excluded from many, many things, brutalized and killed for being who we are. you can handle sitting out a contest. 
Please do not call me cishet. As i stated, I am conflicted with my sexual identity for reasons I am not only afraid to share but because it's no one's business. And I do not need a history lesson either. Dont worry, I will not be joining anything anywhere I am not welcome. I think your contest is a great space for those that are included. 
Just because people have discriminated against to you doesn't mean you should discriminate against them. Two wrongs don't make a right. 

All the best with your contest. I appreciate your responses.

18.06.2020 19:48:55

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misogynist
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Atheista
18.06.2020 19:49:17
misogynist

no one is saying your support at pride is unwelcome. your Appropriation of pride is unwelcome. your taking the light away from lgbt people by participating in a contest meant for them is unwelcome. if you want to support lgbt people, go donate or sign petitions. competing in an lgbt only contest is not activism.

as i said the pride parade thread is open to you? why do you have a problem with my contest when there is also a space where you can put a look without crowing out lgbt people? APFV and i coordinated these threads together specifically to provide everyone a chance to be part of pride. accept that some things are not for you. this contest is not. 

18.06.2020 19:49:17
Channing
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Freethinkerland
18.06.2020 19:52:08
Channing

torrenoia wrote:
hey channing did you have an issue with the himbo only fashion contest too lmao
LOL i didn't know there was one! But yes, my feelings would've been hurt. Honestly, I only brought it up because BL has all these rules and I've read so much about being supportive, respectful and mindful of everyone. So it confused me to see that users can be excluded for things like gender and sexual orientation.

18.06.2020 19:52:08

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misogynist
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Atheista
18.06.2020 19:52:40
misogynist

i am not discriminating against you. please get that through your head. you are not being discriminated against. lgbt are allowed to make spaces for themselves and themselves only. if you want to make a bimbo only contest there's nothing wrong with that as Juggalo Rights said, i would only ask you be mindful of your own transphobia if you were to do so. 

18.06.2020 19:52:40
Channing
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Freethinkerland
18.06.2020 19:54:28
Channing

Juggalo Rights wrote:
uhhh... yeah? it would be totally okay? men can absolutely support female empowerment, but allowing men to be front and center in it kind of defeats the purpose? im saying this as a man.
Makes sense! I didn't think of it that way, ty!

18.06.2020 19:54:28

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Juggalo Rights
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Atheista
18.06.2020 19:56:54
Juggalo Rights

Channing wrote:
Juggalo Rights wrote:
uhhh... yeah? it would be totally okay? men can absolutely support female empowerment, but allowing men to be front and center in it kind of defeats the purpose? im saying this as a man.
Makes sense! I didn't think of it that way, ty!
okay. so the pride contest is the same kind of thing.

18.06.2020 19:56:54
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Channing
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Freethinkerland
18.06.2020 19:59:45
Channing

misogynist wrote:
i am not discriminating against you. please get that through your head. you are not being discriminated against. lgbt are allowed to make spaces for themselves and themselves only. if you want to make a bimbo only contest there's nothing wrong with that as Juggalo Rights said, i would only ask you be mindful of your own transphobia if you were to do so. 
Please stop being disrespectful. Now you're accusing me of transphobia, smh. Please don't respond if you feel the need to be rude. I respect all of your opinions and responses so if you feel like being mean, don't write back. 


18.06.2020 19:59:45

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misogynist
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Atheista
18.06.2020 20:01:47
misogynist

Channing wrote:
misogynist wrote:
i am not discriminating against you. please get that through your head. you are not being discriminated against. lgbt are allowed to make spaces for themselves and themselves only. if you want to make a bimbo only contest there's nothing wrong with that as Juggalo Rights said, i would only ask you be mindful of your own transphobia if you were to do so. 
Please stop being disrespectful. Now you're accusing me of transphobia, smh. Please don't respond if you feel the need to be rude. I respect all of your opinions and responses so if you feel like being mean, don't write back. 

im not accusing you of transphobia, just as i know many cis women will exclude trans feminine people from "female" only activism i would warn you to be mindful of that. thats all. 

18.06.2020 20:01:47

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