17.12.2020 15:44:33
SweetasNuts

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PlushKlavier wrote:

Other players have been permabanned before by Kimsim or Sachem or Mariolka without problem, I'm sure permabanning this other toxic player won't be a problem either. Especially since the PB and her entire government is in favor of permabanning this player, but the PB doesn't have the tools to permaban them so Kimsim or Sachem or Mariolka has to issue the permaban :)

The PB does not have the perma ban because the PB chose not to have it. Respect her choice please.
If you wish the PB to have it then please run for election yourself.
But its not our responsibility to run the Bimbo society.
Please stop trying to pass your government's responsibility to us. 

17.12.2020 15:45:04
meatbomb

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Then why have you been able to ban users under the age of 16? People with multiple accounts? those were not prime bimbos decision that was your developers, don't put this on her shoulders, don't be a hypocrite, this won't help your case against the cybersecutity officials this site has been reported too 

17.12.2020 15:53:35
Poison Black

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I'm offering my knowledge about social media and marketing, pointing out what needs to be changed in order to help you to achieve your goals and bring more investors to the website.

I'm already moderating the forums and reporting inappropriate content to Team Bimbo. I also made clothes for the shop, hold several contests and I'm the one who deals with that mentioned offender almost all the time and one of the persons who was threatened via DM. I'm doing what I can for this game and this community, but neither I neither Toki can fix it without your help.

So, please, gave me something to put a good word about you for those users, because someone else is using your name very often in order to press everyone to accept the things that you just say that isn't acceptable, so I'm very confused right now. I'll re-elaborate it:

- 90 days in jail don't prevent those people to harass and threat us again when that time expires. What gonna happen after that time went over?

- TokiKonoe is a great Prime Bimbo, but she's also a user. Even if she permaban the mentioned player by herself, that person could make another account and eventually reach out a power position. Right now, half of my fellow FGs are in the same state as that repeat offender. If the next PB moves them out of the role, that person could abuse the jail tool on my colleagues. How TB will deal with possible power abuse?

- Did you understand that this person also uses your name to threaten Prime Bimbo staff? Are you okay with it?

- Also, what TB will do in order to accommodate the minors? My main concerns: dopehead badge, fuck budies, horny, have sex in a club, hooker as a career option, sniff coke, and other major problematic careers.

- Also, the delay of the communication between Prime Bimbo staff and the Team Bimbo could give the mentioned State Minister an advantage that seems unfair to me and other users. Did you suggest move that person from the role instead make another election?

Thanks for your time and attention, and please, don't take that as an offense. I'm just trying to moderate this discussion to avoid further bashes at the forums and I intended to be the most polite as possible. 

17.12.2020 15:53:42
PlushKlavier

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SweetasNuts wrote:

PlushKlavier wrote:

Other players have been permabanned before by Kimsim or Sachem or Mariolka without problem, I'm sure permabanning this other toxic player won't be a problem either. Especially since the PB and her entire government is in favor of permabanning this player, but the PB doesn't have the tools to permaban them so Kimsim or Sachem or Mariolka has to issue the permaban :)

The PB does not have the perma ban because the PB chose not to have it. Respect her choice please.
If you wish the PB to have it then please run for election yourself.
But its not our responsibility to run the Bimbo society.
Please stop trying to pass your government's responsibility to us. 

I think you're missing the point I'm trying to make.

I know the PB chose not to get the permaban tool herself, because this could lead to potential abuse form future PBs, but this should still allow the PB to request a permaban from either Kimsim or Sachem or Mariolka to be issued onto another player they feel deserves to be permabanned from the site. This is part of keeping the site a safe environment and getting rid of anyone who breaks the site rules. As said before, Kimsim or Sachem or Mariolka had zero problems permabanning other users like Darkiplier and Thotticus Tiddies upon request of the PB, so why is it suddenly a problem NOW to get them to do this to another player that people have requested for a long time now to get permabanned?

It's unfair to play favorites with people Chris, that's not how a true democracy works. The majority vote wants this player permanently banned, and the PB should be allowed to ask TB to issue that permaban onto that person if the PB agrees that this person is a danger and harmful to the site. Especially if you want to keep the site 16+, dangerous and harmful individuals should be permanently removed from the platform one way or another.

17.12.2020 15:55:19
SweetasNuts

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meatbomb wrote:

Then why have you been able to ban users under the age of 16? People with multiple accounts? those were not prime bimbos decision that was your developers, don't put this on her shoulders, don't be a hypocrite, this won't help your case against the cybersecutity officials this site has been reported too 

If you dont like things here then get on and stand for election and win and then make things better

17.12.2020 15:57:46
SweetasNuts

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PlushKlavier wrote:

SweetasNuts wrote:

PlushKlavier wrote:

Other players have been permabanned before by Kimsim or Sachem or Mariolka without problem, I'm sure permabanning this other toxic player won't be a problem either. Especially since the PB and her entire government is in favor of permabanning this player, but the PB doesn't have the tools to permaban them so Kimsim or Sachem or Mariolka has to issue the permaban :)

The PB does not have the perma ban because the PB chose not to have it. Respect her choice please.
If you wish the PB to have it then please run for election yourself.
But its not our responsibility to run the Bimbo society.
Please stop trying to pass your government's responsibility to us. 

I think you're missing the point I'm trying to make.

I know the PB chose not to get the permaban tool herself, because this could lead to potential abuse form future PBs, but this should still allow the PB to request a permaban from either Kimsim or Sachem or Mariolka to be issued onto another player they feel deserves to be permabanned from the site. This is part of keeping the site a safe environment and getting rid of anyone who breaks the site rules. As said before, Kimsim or Sachem or Mariolka had zero problems permabanning other users like Darkiplier and Thotticus Tiddies upon request of the PB, so why is it suddenly a problem NOW to get them to do this to another player that people have requested for a long time now to get permabanned?

It's unfair to play favorites with people Chris, that's not how a true democracy works. The majority vote wants this player permanently banned, and the PB should be allowed to ask TB to issue that permaban onto that person if the PB agrees that this person is a danger and harmful to the site. Especially if you want to keep the site 16+, dangerous and harmful individuals should be permanently removed from the platform one way or another.

You are missing the point of this site and our great Bimbo nation.  
Its a democratic site where power is shared.
The President runs the back end and the Prime Bimbo runs the front end.
So get on and let the PB run the front end please

17.12.2020 16:00:55
TokiKonoe

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Hey everyone! Sorry for being late on this, I was at work.

I declined the permaban/permajail tool in a faith that it would automatically move to the next PBs too, and somehow, it is a very scary idea considering that clueless newbies are allowed to vote (I think we all have seen the result of that). In the future we may have a teenager or some irrational person as our PB. There will be a huge risk of someone abusing that tool and a lot of this is based on trust. I would suggest raising the level limit for voters, especially for important elections like the SM and PB election.

So far only TB has been able to permaban users. They have banned some trolls, harassers and people under 16 but for some reason they never banned long term players who have been reported multiple times for their behavior and who have spent some serious periods in jail too. I don’t know why and it's not really the biggest issue here. 

And just to clarify this again, I have 90-day jail tool, it is not a ban tool – so if someone posts some porn or violent images on their profile, jailing won’t help anything else than prevent the person log in – the content will stay visible as long as TB decides to edit it or actually ban the person. Also, jailed users can be challenged to fights and debates wearing a jail suit. And of course, someday I won't be prime bimbo anymore, someday these people will get out of jail. Then what? Do we start this thing all over again?

The fact that Chris actually trusts us so much is very encouraging and if he still thinks that I should have the real ban tool, I could maybe accept it, but I honestly prefer TB to do permabans. This kind of tool should never be handed to a minor and it would be very important of Chris to consider carefully whom to give it.  

17.12.2020 16:03:43
SweetasNuts

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Poison Black wrote:

I'm already moderating the forums and reporting inappropriate content to Team Bimbo. I also made clothes for the shop, hold several contests and I'm the one who deals with that mentioned offender almost all the time and one of the persons who was threatened via DM. I'm doing what I can for this game and this community, but neither I neither Toki can fix it without your help.

Thanks for all you do for bimboland. 
Just delete content and ban anyone yourself. We trust you. 

- 90 days in jail don't prevent those people to harass and threat us again when that time expires. What gonna happen after that time went over?

ban again if need be?

- TokiKonoe is a great Prime Bimbo, but she's also a user. Even if she permaban the mentioned player by herself, that person could make another account and eventually reach out a power position. Right now, half of my fellow FGs are in the same state as that repeat offender. If the next PB moves them out of the role, that person could abuse the jail tool on my colleagues. How TB will deal with possible power abuse?

She said no to perma ban. You will have to ask her why 

- Did you understand that this person also uses your name to threaten Prime Bimbo staff? Are you okay with it?

No I am not. Dont stand for it. I trust the PB and her team

- Also, what TB will do in order to accommodate the minors? My main concerns: dopehead badge, fuck budies, horny, have sex in a club, hooker as a career option, sniff coke, and other major problematic careers.

Yes changing some of them straight away. But lets not get carried away Most 16 year olds are perfectly aware what they mean and re not going to be damaged by a make believe job

- Also, the delay of the communication between Prime Bimbo staff and the Team Bimbo could give the mentioned State Minister an advantage that seems unfair to me and other users. Did you suggest move that person from the role instead make another election?

Why? The elections were real and the real most popular people won. Move on please

17.12.2020 16:08:35
SweetasNuts

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TokiKonoe wrote:

Hey everyone! Sorry for being late on this, I was at work.

I declined the permaban/permajail tool in a faith that it would automatically move to the next PBs too, and somehow, it is a very scary idea considering that clueless newbies are allowed to vote (I think we all have seen the result of that). In the future we may have a teenager or some irrational person as our PB. There will be a huge risk of someone abusing that tool and a lot of this is based on trust. I would suggest raising the level limit for voters, especially for important elections like the SM and PB election.

So far only TB has been able to permaban users. They have banned some trolls, harassers and people under 16 but for some reason they never banned long term players who have been reported multiple times for their behavior and who have spent some serious periods in jail too. I don’t know why and it's not really the biggest issue here. 

And just to clarify this again, I have 90-day jail tool, it is not a ban tool – so if someone posts some porn or violent images on their profile, jailing won’t help anything else than prevent the person log in – the content will stay visible as long as TB decides to edit it or actually ban the person. Also, jailed users can be challenged to fights and debates wearing a jail suit. And of course, someday I won't be prime bimbo anymore, someday these people will get out of jail. Then what? Do we start this thing all over again?

The fact that Chris actually trusts us so much is very encouraging and if he still thinks that I should have the real ban tool, I could maybe accept it, but I honestly prefer TB to do permabans. This kind of tool should never be handed to a minor and it would be very important of Chris to consider carefully whom to give it.  

It is the job of the Prime Bimbo and her elected government to manage the front of house and Bimbo community.
Sometimes that involves making difficult decisions.
That's power.
Thats the role of PB and the role of government. Thats why you get paid and you deserve it.
No one said its easy.
I trust you.

17.12.2020 16:20:28
traggot

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SweetasNuts wrote:

Poison Black wrote:

- Also, what TB will do in order to accommodate the minors? My main concerns: dopehead badge, fuck budies, horny, have sex in a club, hooker as a career option, sniff coke, and other major problematic careers.

Yes changing some of them straight away. But lets not get carried away Most 16 year olds are perfectly aware what they mean and re not going to be damaged by a make believe job

The fact it's usage is a "make believe" joke doesn't change the fact you, as an adult man, absolutely should not be running a site in which 16 year olds are encouraged to refer to themselves with a derogatory term for sex workers or work to achieve virtual goals of sexualized jobs. If anything it makes it worse, as it shows the fact you think the existence of sex workers is a punchline for your political Bimbo roleplaying dressup site.