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24.04.2018 00:58:55
curhur

I was browsing the 'Hats' section at the Shops, and noticed that an Indigenous American war bonnet is an accessory available for purchase.
Can we ask staff/moderators/developers to remove this as a purchasable option? Can we raise this issue as others did glitches? Culture is not a costume, and we need to be respectful even within a fictional universe. The war bonnet is a sacred part of Indigenous American culture and life, and there's been enough appropriation.

24.04.2018 00:58:55

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24.04.2018 03:57:11
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Did I Just SEE a 'SNOW-FLAKE' comment ?
May I ask, If I'm a Native American , why cant I wear a war bonnet?
  Should my native apparel be banned, because you find it insensitive to YOUR Culture?

It is an ITEM of clothing, and banning something I would Wear with PRIDE, seems a bit racist to me.
Why would some feather's in my hair bother you so MUCH?
Who taught you to HATE THAT?

Why would you deem only CERTAIN, clothes that something NOBODY should never WEAR?
Only Muslim fanatics dress their women in shapeless 'Black covering's, from Head to TOE'... For the shame of a woman, being a woman is SO Offensive for the ENTIRE PUBLIC TO SEE ???????
If I want to wear my Moccasins, and feather's in my hair, I have the RIGHT's to do so.........
It's comfortable and functional for my environment.

This comment Just made me WANT to SCREAM !!!!!!....
I despise people who deem my clothing offensive to their own WORLD VIEW.
Why is everyone determined to dress ME to fit their own Ideals of what a woman should be.
CARE to Fight about this... ? In this subject I will GET EXTREME !!!
I earned my fortune being a Stripper/ escort, and wearing my 'feather's' at 'camp', I would play sport's with the men and gambled, I was better at some 'native' Skills. Proving a Skill, mean's everything to the elders of the tribe....... Facing your biggest challenge, and overcoming it, was my most challenging assignment. A White German Girl, learning to be NATIVE in the pristine forest's of Yellowstone.
None of the Natives, ever made me feel like I had to be a sexual object, like it did, in the " White-man's world',   never

   Don't you ever DARE tell someone what clothing is allowed to be WORN.
Muslim women might put up with that sort of BULL-shit, but this AMERICAN woman, will kick your ass to Allah's Hell.

Why are you even in this game if you Hate Clothes, the freedom of expression, and art?

Buy It or Don't, but Don't you even dare to disguise your racism, with POLITICAL correctness.....
   You will fail every time.
Rest assured The Native Americans have Casino's NOW and are given more free money than even they know how to spend wisely... But that is a WHOLE other topic. Drugs is Killing the Men OFF in the 21st century.
The Culture, is dying by drunkenness and the Men have Nothing to do anymore...... They no longer Hunt, and they have absolutely nothing to do but DRUGS............ and beat their wives. The cycle of genocide is complete.
Native American culture has been totally destroyed by political correctness.

Only a few of the older member's of tribe still teach the history and customs to people like MYSELF. because ;
\Smart Phone's/ have Robbed them of the Generation of children, they would normally be teaching these skills too......
I was just mistakenly adopted by them, because I was willing to learn and was Prideful, in my respect of a dead culture....... The legend and past are not GONE, they live on in my son's................
They are warrior's with Value's, for mother-Earth and the people who surround them.

Snow-flakes...... What culture do they belong to? What do they wear? Do they believe in anything that really matters? Hahahaaaaa I really hope the opening poster replies because I'm about to get NATIVE AMERICAN ON-->
   her/him/undecided.

24.04.2018 03:57:11

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24.04.2018 04:18:12
HeavenLeighBimbo

This topic, Hit a Nerve of Mine !!!!
I wish to Expand on this topic just a little with a bit of my REAL LIFE, in the Mountain's.

I live around native American Indians, and have taken the time, to immerse myself in their culture.
In my city, we have a festive called ," The War Bonnet Roundup. "
Every girl and woman WANT'S to be SEEN in her , EARNED Bonnet !!!!
   Prizes are awarded to women with the most SKILLS.
   Every Bead and feather actually is a language, and tells the story of the person wearing it.....

They are like trophies to US...... They have MEANING that you just don't seem to understand.
Girls begin earning them at a very young age, and learn the dances of the Tribe wearing them.
The challenges for a Girl reaching Puberty, is even a ritual. I'M NOT SURE IF I WAS GIVEN A FREE PASS, but my own creative approach to the challenge, was enough to win me,
Many feather's, in my War-Bonnet.

They also don't discriminate against people willing to live the life they also cherish.
I have a real War-Bonnet.... Every single feather, was put there by a member of the Shone-Bannock Tribe.....
I could never make something like that.... The TRIBE; Made it for me. Every feather and bead, was weaved into it by doing something special for the ENTIRE NATION. Even the leather, was blessed and made by the hands, of a people who blessed my existence in their community.

Please Understand a Culture before you begin BASHING it's article's of clothing.
For Native American Indian's, the opening Poster, just abused one of the most culturally significant Item's POSSIBLE.

Next, DEFEND a BURKA .... I DARE YOU !!!

24.04.2018 04:18:12

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24.04.2018 06:29:48
curhur

okay, you need to calm the fuck down before you burst a blood vessel. And learn to read, too, because you didn't seem to take in a single word of what i'd written. I don't know where you've got this idea of me "bashing" an article of clothing. In no part of my post do I "bash" the war bonnet. I mentioned that wearing it is a sacred right in Indigenous cultures, and a lot of tribes have been fighting for their right to keep it an insular part of their tribes. I merely suggested that it be removed because of insensitivity to the struggle of Indigenous Americans, their rights, and the misappropriation of their culture by big fashion business - such as Forever 21 - and never called the wearing of a bonnet or feathers. You're disgustingly rude and ignorant by assuming that i'm criticising the existence of Indigenous Americans - when all I did was suggest that removing a sacred item from a gaming website might be a safe, and polite option. Nobody here brought up sex work or your chosen career or drugs or casinos. That was you. To the detriment of my intended point, actually.

I never stated that a woman isn't allowed to wear what she wants - again, that was you, and for what reason I've no clue - when, again, all i did was suggest removing an item of clothing that had been paraded by non-Indigenous folks alike who don't understand the significance behind the war bonnet. In fact, you mentioning Muslim women putting up with restrictions was another ridiculous point that isn't relevant whatsoever. It's the same xenophobia that you're accusing me of, when only one of us here is being disturbingly rude in regards to other culture.

Nobody hates anyone here. This isn't some sort of rallying cry for fascists or whatever you believe it is. It's merely a small post, written by someone asking that we be respectful of a culture that a lot of us - admittedly myself - don't quite understand, and perhaps will not understand, because we weren't born into it. I don't know how you've found it offensive, but you have, somehow, to which I wonder how or why.

I want you to take a deep breath, grow up, and learn to formulate a response to an inquiry without going off topic. I, meanwhile, will go back to my original source - a young woman who is Hunkpapa Lakota, and whom I know personally from the Standing Rock Reservation - and again ask why it might be a good idea to remove it from a website about fashion.

24.04.2018 06:29:48

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24.04.2018 06:41:26
HeavenLeighBimbo

I'm sticking to the kindest Phrase...........
   "The Snowflakes Fall from grace."
There is nothing to even reply too..... More hate, disguised as social activism.
Why did you even try , to hate an Item of cultural clothing, when the Culture ITSELF BIT YOU on THE ASS,

The Opening Poster's, reply made me laugh at the absurdity of her teacher's. A Product of her environment.
She is not to blame... She is a victim of the Media. Nothing more or less.......

24.04.2018 06:41:26

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24.04.2018 06:46:57
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How the fuck did that person miss the whole point so tremendously? There was no mention of "if you're Indigenous American, you CAN'T wear this!" The OP was merely saying that there have been too many cases of people wrongfully wearing the war bonnet, and talking about their "spirit animal," and that there is a way to avoid all anger and confusion by avoiding the chance of offending someone who is Indigenous American, and who feels that their culture is, once again, being stolen by a colonising power and removed from their lives. And where did all the shit about burkas and drugs and sex work come from? There was literally no mention of any of that. You're just throwing things out there, Replier, and are shooting your mouth off irrationally, and not even bothering to listen to the original point.

This Means War: why fashion headdresses must be stopped [The Guardian, 2012]

'Indian Princess' Halloween contest removed after protests [Standard-Examiner, 2017]

When Cultural expression becomes Appropriation [December, 2005]

These are three of 250,000 results I found when I bothered to do some basic checking (unlike you, Replier), and found that OP is indeed correct. Asking that we receive blanket respect for all cultures is not anyone shutting anyone else down.It's no one being disrespectful - in fact, it's people being highly respectful, and trying not to steal a culture that has already been decimated by colonialism and violent capitalism.

OP is right. you need to calm the fuck down.

24.04.2018 06:46:57

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24.04.2018 06:50:50
HeavenLeighBimbo

Censorship is currently in Fashion ?
NOT... LOLROF
The fact's and opinion of myself doesn't justify BANNING culturally significant clothing ITEM'S....
Buy a Burka if you want one......
   but sadly there isn't one in the shops, to provide you with enough fabric to cover
YOUR
SHAME.
A Multi-account, defending a DISGRACED ACCOUNT? Seems possible.... Hahahaaaa
A One Post wonder, speaking as the Opening Poster..... Priceless !!!!!!!!!
Snowflakes are worse than STD's...... They multiply exponentially. and are totally Obvious about IT....... [gamer's]

So to be culturally correct, I must deny my culture. Seems Odd, to me. but that is what both the opening poster and her alter EGO is saying.... Nahhh.... I think I will just be Myself......
    You can create a puppet in your own fantasy world of 'cookie-cutter' world.
Just don't you DARE STEAL my Headdress............ I will hunt you down and MOCK YOU, SILLY.
This Thread doesn't even truly deserve my attention..... but it was a GOOD point of FACT of How the Lack of Ethics and Multi account's are a HUGE PROBLEM in Bimboland's.
It's fun to play with Snow men !!!!!!!!

24.04.2018 06:50:50

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24.04.2018 06:59:07
curhur

would a rational person like to weigh in on this? it seems Replier is caught in an echo chamber of their own idiocy and can't see the sheer idiocy of their own arguments/statements. The original question still stands, though, and is for the rational thinkers out there: could we please consider the sensitive nature of the Indigenous American war bonnet, and have it removed from a website about fashion and fashion accessories; a sub-section about 'accessorising,' considering just how significant it is to Indigenous Americans and their culture?

24.04.2018 06:59:07

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24.04.2018 07:19:41
moochie

does

does the replier not see the hypocrisy of this whole thing?

honey ... you're denigrating the burka the way you think OP is denigrating the war bonnet, except that they're trying to do something respectful, and you're just making trashy arguments? You're caught in an echo chamber here, sweetie, and you really don't understand the burka, or why women wear it. Shocking revelation, I know, that the replier doesn't understand something, but we'll all try to move on as best we can with our lives intact.

[deep breath] Just as the Indigenous American war bonnet has clear cultural significance, the burka (burqa) is also a culturally significant item, too. Women wear the burka, or the niqab, or the hijab, because the Qu'raan asks that adherents to Islam "be modest." The Torah asks that Jewish men and women be modest, too, which is why Jewish women will wear a sinar tinchel whilst at Temple. The same also goes with Catholic women, who will wear a scarf to church. Now, there are extremists within every culture and religion, and those are the unfortunate cases that ruin the experience of covering up for a lot of men and women.

Doctor Raihan Ismail is a scholar of Middle East Politics and Islamic Studies at the ANU (Australian National University), who, on public Canberra radio, stated that

"The Koran does not explicitly say you have to cover yourself in this manner. Some scholars argue that it is a religious obligation, particularly the more conservative factions within the Muslim world. There are many variations and interpretations."

It also happens that the aforementioned Dr Ismail is a Muslim who has been wearing her hijab since she was a young girl:

"I'm so comfortable wearing it that I can't imagine myself without it. I wear it for cultural reasons, but there are many women who wear it for religious reasons."

You see? Denigrating the burqa whilst not understanding the reasons that some, if not most Muslim women wear it, is just another shining example of your ignorance's here, Replier. You're happy to stand up and cry "oppression" but you don't actually understand what it is that the OP is requesting, and you certainly don't understand the significance of the burka. So, maybe ... don't? use the burka? in order to try to make a point? Your idiocy and ignorance is showing, and you're embarrassing no one but yourself.

24.04.2018 07:19:41

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24.04.2018 07:24:29
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Muslim propaganda, Now !!!! OMG this is better than I actually expected !!!!!!
HATE ME. please........
Show off your skills of humanity............................
Is the answer to the question, to 'What is acceptable for women to wear'.....
Conflicting statement's are so ' Snowflake '. What is acceptable to a bimbo in a bimbo world?

Should I just be Naked every day, to not upset the world in general?
A Burka is Not an option in my opinion.... sorry I'm not that religiously ignorant, like that.
I rather look silly with feather's in my hair than BOW to a culture that is destroying human evolution.

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