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Rapid-onset gender dysphoria

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25.05.2019 04:10:15
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I know this topic might cause fights, but I hope people would stay calm and respectful. :) I think this an important issue, because quite many young people, especially young female to male, persons, have regretted their gender reassignment treatments later. And it has caused them a lot of mental and physical suffering.

I have been wondering, that maybe it would help to prevent problems like these, if we all would work harder to free and make much wider all these stereotypes about what should a female or a male person to be alike, how should they look like, how should they think and feel. Also transvestism and cross-dressing should be make cool and popular again.

25.05.2019 04:10:15
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25.05.2019 04:14:05
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I’m a cis female myself, but I’ve been interested in this topic for years. Mostly because I have had some issues with my gender. And I totally accept and support trans gender people. But it’s a real problem that some young people feel like they have ruined their whole life after going through gender change.

Sorry my English isn’t that good, it isn’t my native language.

25.05.2019 04:14:05
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25.05.2019 04:57:39
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"Rapid-onset gender dysphoria" is something that's been entirely made up by transphobes on the internet. I'm sure you're not trying to be transphobic but wherever you have read about this as a thing, it's not a thing, not according to trans people or LGBT+ charities or organisations, or according to anyone except transphobes, who clearly have an agenda in spreading these lies, and there's not really any need for a thread about something that doesn't exist.

I don't normally like comparing different discrimination but how trans people are treated now is very similar to how gay/bi people have been treated, and I am bisexual so I can say that lol. Would you believe something like 'rapid onset homosexuality' if someone on the internet was saying that was what a lot of gay people actually are? I don't think so. That they're being homophobic would be very clear.

Yes people can be confused, about all kinds of things, but I read something very recently from a young trans person and all they said they wanted, and that they wanted for other people, was to have the space to explore their gender and figure it out themselves, even if they wouldn't identify as trans forever or as their current gender forever. I related to that from being bisexual as I certainly didn't know I was bisexual for years and having space to figure it out yourself is very important. There is absolutely nothing 'rapid' about that. I don't think my experience of figuring it out slowly is the main experience however as for others, they just knew they were gay, or bisexual. Either they always knew or they realised it quite quickly in their teens, when they hit adolescence. That is often the same for trans people, who just know. That's not 'rapid' either, that's just them knowing who they are.

From my experience of the LGBT+ community, I know many trans people who were assigned female at birth, who are trans or non binary and who have not always been one thing or the other - several have been trans men but then non binary. Others are lesbians then trans. I know these people personally and have never seen them regret anything at all. It's the same as when I thought I was straight but then I knew I was bisexual. I don't have regrets about what I thought I was, I just realised what I am now?

For YOUNG people, if you mean actual children and teenagers, they do not receive 'gender reassignment treatments'. That just does not happen. They receive hormone blockers, which simply slow down their adolescence - they do not 'transition' physically or anything in that time - other than wearing different clothes or whatever which they may do to express their gender in different ways.

Therefore, like I said, this is a lot of ignorance and fearmongering about the terrible issues caused by transgender people which are extremely overblown and offensive.

Indeed people shouldn't be pressured to do or be anything - I think the real issue with this is that men are obviously expected to look a certain way and as are women. That's not trans people's fault, that's all of society. Society doesn't expect or want people to look like they're in the middle somehow, so yes some people may feel pressure to change to fit into society's expectations of men and women. But for many others their dysphoria about their body parts, their genitals or breasts, is very real and like I said, nothing rapid about it.

So yeah in conclusion ~ you are right about not stereotyping people but very, very wrong about 'rapid onset gender dysphoria.' It doesn't exist, you have just been taken in by people's conspiracy theories, which are in no way based in any facts or scientific or psychological studies even of trans people. I happen to be watching The X Files right now and there's more evidence of alien abductions and UFO's than there is of rapid onset gender dysphoria. It's not a thing.

What I'd recommend is that people either find out about these issues seriously, if they need to, or if they are not trans or anything and have no need to understand everything about being trans, then mind your own business? I happen to know a fair amount from being friends with trans people, so I've felt the need to learn about it, to support them, to actively support the LGBT+ community as a whole. If you have no reason to learn about being trans, it's perfectly fine to NOT know everything about trans people, about being trans? It's perfectly fine to not know about every 'issue' that there is and to not have an opinion about it to share on the internet. But my rule, for absolutely everything, is not not express opinions about things you don't understand. If this issue doesn't affect you personally, just let people live, and don't speak about it before understanding it, because then you are just spreading a lot of ignorance, like all of the other ignorance that has been spread about all LGBT+ people (gay and lesbian etc people) in the past because of people judging, wanting to talk about something controversial or strange and new to them, before actually knowing these people and understanding them.

This has become very long but to be blunt about it, and sorry if I am very blunt, this thread has only been created out of ignorance and from my own experience with the LGBT+ community (and many people I know who are 'female to male' or HAVE been but aren't now) I know these is no basis in fact here whatsoever. If you simply google this phrase you will show it's a 'controversy,' a conspiracy, a lie, inaccurate, and everything else that amounts to it's BS.

25.05.2019 04:57:39
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25.05.2019 04:59:37
Peri

I know I'm 50/50 split on the whole thing part of me wants to be a girl the other part of me is happy being a guy. If only I could be extreamly andrigouns like some anime boys then I could just run around as a trap when I want to be girly XD

25.05.2019 04:59:37
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25.05.2019 06:55:35
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Oh sorry, I’ve been thinking that these people with ROGD, and  Transtrender people as well, could be a bigger threat to LBGT community than people like me. Especially when those Transtrenders are quite loud and active with their opinions and views.

But OK, it’s very possible that I’m wrong. I’ve been talking about gender here only, not sexual orientation. Just to keep things simple. What it comes to my sexual orientation, I’m in a minority too.

It’s possible that I’m not allowed to discuss or try to form my own opinion about this issue, since I don’t know enough. Then I’ll go on reading and listening to people like you, who know about these things. But then I get some different kinds of views. How to yell which is right?? All of them?

25.05.2019 06:55:35
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05.06.2019 23:20:00
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QueenShebaVIII, I have found you interesting for a while now reading many posts :) Your answer is very eloquently written. I would like to pick your brain about somehting though.

Gender, body image and sexuality are very complex and delicate issues. Let us assume binary sex for the sake of this argument, it get even more compicated if we deny binary sex and I am not even really sure how valid that point is. I do absolutely believe, that homosexuality has existed for all human time. I do also believe, that WAY back (talking centuries, not decades) people could feel attracted to the same sex but might not have been able to live their feelings and (depending on how far back we go) might not have had words to describe their situation (talking hermenutical injustice). In a different post we had the discussion if we even needed labels and a strong argument to not have labels and let everyone live like s/he wants. Sadly this is just not realistic, so let's assume we do have labels and we use them (stereotype free, ideally, for the sake of the argument).

A friend of mine once told me, that she never had sexual feelings for her boyfriend. She did have sex and it was "nice", but not more and she would not initiate. She thought of herself as asexual - I assumed she had just not met the right person. Honestly I thought she might need to meet the right woman, but a couple years later she fell head over heels for a guy and now knows extasy. The point I want to make is this: I do think, that we have our wires "set" in a certain way and don't "become" someone else. But I think we can not *know* who we are until we *discover* ourselves. For this example I think it is fairly easy just considering binary sex and hetero- vs. homosexuality.

After that became more accepted in society (and we are not talking about without stereotypes and discrimination, I know...) more labels were added. Many many more labels for sexuality, then more labels for gender, including nothing, both and interchangeable. On top of that the label for your sexuality changes according to the label you chose for your gender. I explained the setup of two friends to a third friend and he was utterly confused. She was a cis-woman lesbian who met her trans-man hetero partner before the change.

Now the question I would like to discuss: Do you not think, that all these labels and the pressure to "find" oneself, can add to confusion and to a wrong judgement? For example in my school days for girls it was kind of "in" to "be" bisexual - I assume mainly because woman on woman action is a hetero male phantasie - at least porn industry does tailor this kind of porn to men and not to lesbian women. Girls were kissing girls and making out with guys, no problem, but I do not really believe, that all of them were really bisexual. They were curious, but there is a difference between sexual desire and "I can do it and it does not feel bad and on top of it it's cool/socially expected" just as my friend experienced with a male. The big difference is: I can easily make out with a few women in my time, settle down at some point and discover I really crave men. No harm done. And I can be in the closet and come out to myself at one point - no harm done. But realizing to be a different gender does have consequences as soon as you go through a physical change. There have been reports of people to whom that happened - who later wanted to change back. I can totally imagine them being fake and setups to feed into such conspiracy theories and feed fear. I would really like to hear your opinion on that as a little more insider than I am. Don't you think too many available roles to choose from can make it harder to feel how you really feel?
I hope I did not step on anyones toes!


05.06.2019 23:20:00
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07.06.2019 07:09:56
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Sex is a spectrum - even Bill Nye has explained that in the past. So a lot of people who are arguing against these things are arguing against the most modern science on sex, gender and sexuality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQDBNJ3mPa0

Gender is even more a spectrum because that's how you identify, not your biology, but even you biological sex is as well.

Re homosexuality (I actually research LGBT history lol) people used to not label their sexuality - ie as gay, lesbian, bisexual - they would label it as what they *did* like a man who had sex with men, a woman who had sex with women even (though this was less common as for a long time people have believed that you need men to have sex LOL but no women have been having sex in history too) but that wasn't defined as a part of their identity. They could indeed still be bisexual, as we'd say now, but they just didn't see sexuality like that. They'd not speak of who they were but of what they did, or what others did.

This also hasn't been a taboo or a crime for all of history. For the last several centuries, it has been a crime, before being decriminalized in many places. And honestly, many of the places where it is a crime, that is because of colonialism. When European countries, often Britain, colonised other countries of the world, they'd also spread their values and beliefs, which included that homosexuality was a crime, and that has stuck around in many countries. Hawaii, for example, had 3 genders, as did Native Americans, and different cultures had different genders or sexualities which were just accepted by them, the gender in their culture was different to how it is in ours, but this was erased by colonialism and now they also have transphobia, where those who feel a third gender (or feel like two genders simultaneously, for Native Americans) deal with stigma for it, which actually they didn't used to.

And those are also a couple of examples that show that being 'transgender' (not in those terms of course) has been around in history for a long time as well, probably as long as homosexuality.

Though in that case they did have labels - Two Spirit (English translation there of course) for Native Americans, 'Māhū' for Hawaii and other terms which mean the same thing in other Polynesian islands and countries.

And then intersex as well used to be 'hermaphrodite' (but it's better to not call people that word any more and to use intersex).

Labels have been around, in different ways, then for as long as language as been around as well.

Though not the same words - asexual has been used as a sexuality for at least since the 1970s. There is certainly evidence of there being asexual people in history as well, who would not have had the words, but there are people who didn't have sexual relationships by choice, definitely, or didn't seem to feel sexual attraction. If they'd had the words to say that, we'd know now if they were, and they'd have known as well. Without the words, history has been confused about whether these people were actually gay maybe, or even paedophiles, so the label of asexual certainly would have helped then if they were asexual!

My views might be different to others in the LGBT+ community - some are very against accepting asexual people and see them as freaks, but in my opinion, that is certainly just another form of discrimination and LGBT+ people especially, who have and are facing discrimination for their sexuality, should know better.

Transgender people aren't accepted by some gay people, which is horrible, and they are certainly a minority of sometimes very hateful people.

I know asexual people as well but asexual does not mean aromantic. Aromantic actually is an identity - someone who isn't romantically attracted, isn't interested in romantic relationships. That isn't what asexual means. Some people can be both, not interested in romantic or sexual relationships. But asexual on itself just means not being sexually attracted to someone - you don't look at someone and find them hot, you don't get an erection from someone if you have a penis lol. So that she fell in love doesn't make her not asexual. It doesn't necessarily mean not having sex either but that's more complicated to get into. Demisexual also exists, where people don't feel sexual attraction, but then might end up feeling sexual attraction to someone they have fallen for. Or you can be on the asexual spectrum.

Indeed sexuality is fluid, for more people more than others. Sexuality can change. But if someone has labelled themselves a certain way, then that probably did help them or does help them. There's no reason asexual people can't say they are asexual if gay people can say they are gay. Because asexuality is less known, many people see the term asexual and are shocked that there is a word for how they feel and immediately realise that that is them - of course that brings enormous comfort, to have a word for it, as well as to know there are other people, that it is normal actually, and not just them, and that they can even find other people who feel the same way if they have the word for it.

If people don't need to label their sexuality, then they won't.

But labelling also doesn't mean your sexuality isn't fluid. If you are straight now doesn't mean you always will be. That doesn't mean you can't label yourself as that for now.

Most issues from labels only come from other people. It does no harm if you thought of yourself as one thing then realise you're another thing. There may be some confusion but if there wasn't any discrimination or judgement over this, it would hardly matter. The only issue with labels is that they come with so much baggage, but that isn't on the people who label themselves, it isn't on LGBT+ people to deal with that, it should be the discrimination against those labels that changes.

Homosexuality has only been a label in the last century - of course there are more labels because not all LGBT+ people are 'homosexual'. Like I said, people before would have sex with the opposite sex and same sex, but not all would exclusively be with the same sex. So of course there are bisexual people and always have been. It is only when heterosexuals labelled people homosexual that people needed a label like 'bisexual' to show they weren't just exclusively having sex with the same sex. The problem there was that was a label put on them.

Transsexual was similar, scientists and psychiatrists made this up and put it on trans people, not with them wanting that label. So by now LGBT+ people can actually decide on their own labels - that they are bi, or gay, or lesbians, not 'homosexual,' a scientific label, or trans or transgender not 'transsexual' and asexuality has been a sexuality probably just as long, so why not have a label for that? Non-binary is different to transgender, and other terms are as well.

Of course there are a lot of labels - like I said, there are even labels for genders and sexualities you may never have heard of in other cultures and those aren't new terms. Neither are labels people use now that people think are very modern and created on tumblr, they've actually been around for perhaps decades.

If people find that confusing, that's their own issue, and has nothing to do with people's labels. If you were straight and you met another straight person, and you're both cisgender (I don't know if this is the real case, it's just a hypothetical) well you'd both be 2 straight, cis people in a relationship. But if one of you actually realised you were transgender then you would have the exact same situation - one of you is actually trans, will identify as a different gender, and therefore will identify as a different sexuality as well, probably gay. Then your own sexuality might change too, rather than be straight, or you might not be attracted to them any more if you are straight. So if someone is a lesbian, that doesn't make it that much more complicated lol.

The only thing that makes it complicated is that people don't understand that there are more genders and sexualities and that these can change. That's their own business, to figure it out, or just mind their own business, because why do they need to be concerned with other people's labels anyway? People understand their own labels, and all they want is to live and be allowed to live, so if people are straight and cis, then they can just live as being straight and cis, and not be so concerned about others who have labels they don't have, just leave them to it, honestly.

For transgender people, it should be realised more (but like I said, you don't have to learn everything about LGBT+ people, you can just leave them to it lol) that not all trans people have operations. Many would like it and can't afford it, but others just don't decide to. There are also different kinds of surgeries so  there is not one 'change'. They can be reversed so it's not that huge an issue - if you remove your breasts, you can have fake breasts, like anybody else who has removed their breasts, perhaps to minimise the risks of cancer (which should also be less judged as it is your own body so you can do that if you want to, for your own health). Others will have gone through a very painful surgery, after many many years of convincing people that they are transgender. It isn't something someone just does. You can't just go out and say you're trans and you'll get 'changed' as soon as an appointment is available lol. It's a very long process. The majority of people who go through with it will have had ample opportunity to change their mind, will have spoken about it with so many medical professionals, from doctors to psychiatrists.

You can't just pop to the doctor either, you have to go to a specialist gender clinic - in the UK many people have to travel to London to do that and make periodical appointments over YEARS, and of course travelling itself also costs money! But yes some people do 'detransition' but though a small minority might change their mind, a lot of the time this is the same as... Being gay but then denying it to people and being in the closet. Like if you realise you're gay, tell them, face homophobia, and then say, not actually I'm not gay, it was just a phase, or confusion. Trans people go through that too, especially with so much discrimination there is against them.

So many trans people HAVE 'detransitioned' - that doesn't mean undoing a surgery though, like I said. Transitioning can simply mean... changing your clothes and living as that gender. So 'detransitiong' then would mean, changing back to your previous clothes, living as your assigned gender. But often they are doing that out of confusion and to be 'normal' so they don't have to deal with the discrimination and the whole process of transitioning. But like I said, transitioning is not actually going through with a surgery - for many, they can just live with their gender, or they can have some surgery but not all (for trans men, they can remove their breasts for example, which is 'top surgery' only - this is also more complicated however because to get 'bottom surgery' in many cases you HAVE to get top surgery first.. so honestly that doesn't help because then you are forced by hospitals/doctors to have one surgery you might not need so that you can be allowed to get the surgery you do want! So things like that need to change...)

Otherwise, like I've said, it can just be taking hormones (not all do either) or if you're a teenager you might have hormones that just slow down your puberty until you know what gender you are and those aren't 'transitioning' fully, you can just stop taking them!

So yep there is a lot of fearmongering that makes being transgender out to be something it's not! When in reality, you should just be unbothered by people's genitals lol, unless they directly affect you. Perhaps people have changed their genitals, perhaps they will, perhaps they haven't - being transgender is just how they identify, like being gay. There is perhaps a pressure to have surgery to 'match' the gender they feel - what I do think would help is if people were less concerned about other people's genders and bodies! If there wasn't the expectation of trans people being a certain 'thing', those who physically change their gender through surgery, then people would feel less pressure to do that! So the best thing to do, for all LGBT+ people, is just allow them space to figure things out, to maybe use different labels, or use no labels, and in the end they will figure it out, and if there wasn't discrimination of too many expectations of who or what they should be, then it would be no harm done! :)

07.06.2019 07:09:56
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07.06.2019 10:32:49
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WOW that was a long answer ^^ A fellow researcher *_* I love it! I should have told you, that I am a feminist gender researcher (expertise violence against women), so many of that information was not new to me, but it certainly is very educative for other readers here and also I only dipped my scientific toes into trans research.
I'll try to get through it piece by piece.

Sex is a spectrum
Yes, for sure. I did not want to deny that completely, just make the argument easier and shut out that complexity for a short moment. On the other hand: Sex as a spectrum still is defined between two binary poles. We may be able to look at all our sexes in one body (I don't know the reference by heart, but a feminist biologist differentiated between 14 or more in one body) according to chromosomes, hormones and whatnot. So I am not arguing against science at the moment, but I am arguing that these findings still use a binary frame as reference - and I want to argue that this might never be able to change. Out whole world is organised on spectrums between two poles - every shade of grey between black and white for example.

And sure being 'transgender' (not in those terms of course) has been around in history probably equally long. Never wanted to deny that.

Asexuality
For asexuality your examples feed my argument: If we don't have words for something, we cannot know if the words used are correct. Assume there was someone a hundred (just guessing, history is not my field of expertiese ;)) years ago who did not feel sexual attraction to anything that was out there. We would not know if they were really not sexual attracted to anything (which I would find hard to believe, but it is not scientifically backed, just a personal feeling) or if they were instead attracted to something they did not know - as you also say. In case of my friend this was the point. Since she had not been sexually attracted to any person before in her life she thought she might be asexual. Turned out, that she WAS sexually attracted to the guy she is with now. It was not a question of romance, but sex. Before she was able to "perform" sex, but without enjoying it, without climaxing, without even having some kind of fun. She did not know what arousal was, but now she does. And in her case it was as simple as being heterosexual and not having met anyone who aroused her. Or using that fancy word you threw in - maybe she is demisexual. Would make sense ;)
So I would not deem asexual people as freaks, but question if that was really the right label.
"in my opinion, that is certainly just another form of discrimination and LGBT+ people especially, who have and are facing discrimination for their sexuality, should know better" sadly, yes. Also sadly in every area of life making the experience on their own does not keep them from discriminating and wrong decisions :(

"If you are straight now doesn't mean you always will be."
Hm. This is interesting, because this is what my gut feeling would challenge. Everyone might know a woman who lived with a man, had children, then split and got together with a woman. Now exactly here is the point where I want to ask: Is it really the case, that sexual attraction changes? In this scenario the woman could have easily been attracted to women all the time but performed a "normal life" because it is socially expected (and we tend to think, that we *want* it to be that way) or easier or whatever. She could have been lesbian, she could have been bi, but I assume (and there I think we need some research) that she had this kind of sexual attraction all her life and just did not voice or see it. Or did, but bottled it up. I only know a fist full of gay women who were in straight relationships before, but of those few ALL said, that they have been gay all their life. I find this an enormously interesting question. 

"The change"
"It isn't something someone just does." No, sure, I know. My point was, that there have been people doing that (for years and a long and painful process) and after a decade or two realize they want to change back. It isn't about changing one's mind a week after the last appointment was over. These alterations have not been that popular and available until a few decades ago so naturally there are not yet many people out there who did change and can report about their following 20 years. As you pointed out, people also can change only in clothes and behaviour and then more easily change back for whatever reasons. My point is rather this: The fact that there are people who changed and now want back makes me wonder if they misjudged themselves earlier or if they really changed again. Why would you change back and forth other than making a wrong assessment of yourself. Let me illustrate with an example again. I know a teacher who is contantly on the search for his hapiness. He learned a job as an optician and worked for a while. But he did not feel whole, he did not feel happy. He wanted something less boring, that challenged him. So he quit, started university and became a teacher. Now he is challenged and after a while became depressive, burned out and he thinks about quitting and becoming an optician again. My point being: In his search for happiness - so I think - he attributed being happy to the wrong thing. He tried to change something about his life of which he thought "this is the reason for my troubles" and don't think he was not determined. He was very determined, I mean he left his life and started over, including long years of studying without salary and much stress. I think people can be very determined in believing they know what is wrong or what is in the way to be happy. Than they do enormous things to change that only to find, that it did not make the situation ultimately better. And this is *deep breath* this is why I think that Littman might have a point. Don't throw stones now ;) She definately did a shitty job at research and published that whole paper terribly wrong. We definately cannot make a suggestion of a clinical term on the basis of talking to (biased!) parents. So this research was doubly biased. But if we just take the bare idea: That gender dysphoria can be somehting people develop who are very immersed in a peer group where others have and discuss gender dysphoria this is a thought which might be worth having studies on. Real studies I mean ;) Ethical grounded ones of people who do a good job. And preferably by "insiders".

"what I do think would help is if people were less concerned about other people's genders and bodies!"
AMEN to that!

Thanks for taking the time for this post!

07.06.2019 10:32:49
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08.06.2019 02:42:20
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I'm going to try and make this post short and sweet lol

In regards to the title topic of "Rapid Onset" I DO want to point out that it can happen in cases of trauma. The problem is that I would classify these as atypical simply due to an outside influence, and a minority on top of that. In much the same way that phobias can suddenly appear post trauma, I find it foolish to underestimate the limitlessness of the human mind by ever ruling anything out completely, even when these rare cases can be used to fuel hatred and misunderstanding among the ignorant.
Responding to Ruby specifically: You made a claim in your opening post but had nothing to back it up, no sources. In the future, I would highly recommend sharing them so that other posters will know what you're forming your opinions on. Furthermore, I would also advise you to investigate and research your sources. ANYONE can post something on the internet, that doesn't make it the truth. EVERYONE has an agenda, and lying to further it is often quite sadly par for the course. Be cautious.

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08.06.2019 03:58:14
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interesting topic. My Granddaughter went through a stage where she claimed to be alternately Trans,Lesbian,Bi so I would love to see more research in to teenagers on this subject.As it turned out she was Bi-Trans,Lesbian curious  but after several sessions with a reputable licensed therapist that provides services to the Transgender community while they are undergoing the process for a sex change.The therapist discovered that while she was definitely curious  she was actually straight.  It was the trauma of sexual abuse that had occurred while her mother was deployed to Iraq causing her confusion. where I live we have a large LBTQ community. so we are fortunate to have several really good therapists and Good medical Community services for transgenders who have decided to do sex changes or suffer  from gender dysphoria




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Frequently Asked Questions


What is Ximbo land ?
The Internet republic of Ximbo lands is the worlds first Internet republic.

What is its mission?
To unite the world.

Where is MissBimbo.com? Miss Bimbo was much better than this site.
The Internet republic of Ximbo land was created by Miss Bimbo herself and is its more intelligent successor. The old site was for junior bimbos. This site is for intelligent Ximbos.

What is the national flag of Ximbo land?
Ximbolands Flag

When was the Internet republic of Ximbo land founded
2007

What is the capital city of the Internet republic of Ximbo land?
Bimbo City

How many states make up the internet republic of Ximbo land?
There are 6 states that make up the internet republic of Ximbo lands. They are ­ Atheistia, Freethinkerland, Reasonopia, Agnostica, Secville, and Antitheocra. Bimbo City is the neutral administrative capital and is its own city zone. Boob Island is the home of the President of the Internet republic of Ximbo land

What is a Ximbo citizen?
A ‘Ximbo’ or ‘Ximbo citizen’ is a member of the internet republic of Ximbolands community.

How can I become a Ximbo citizen?
In order to become a citizen of Ximboland you must first pass the Ximbolands citizens test. It is free to become a Ximbo citizen.

What is a Ximbo senator?
A Ximbo senator is a senior member of the Internet republic of Ximbo land. Only senators are eligible to put themselves forward for election to become State Ministers and then ultimately the Prime Ximbo.

Who is the Prime Ximbo?
The Prime Ximbo is the democratically elected head of the Internet republic of Ximbo land.

Where does the Prime Ximbo live?
The Prime Ximbo lives in the Pink House for the 4 month term they are in office.

I want to become Prime Ximbo. How do I do that?
Any Ximbo citizen can become Prime Ximbo using the democratic process. Its a 3 stage process from Senator>State Minister> Prime Ximbo. All Ximbo citizens can vote in general elections but in order to put themselves forward to become Prime Ximbo they must first become a Ximbo senator. All Ximbo senators are electable as state ministers. State Minister elections take place every 4 months also. Only state ministers are eligible to then become the Prime Ximbo.

Can I become Prime Ximbo more than once?
Yes ­ a Ximbo can hold the position of Prime Ximbo for 3 terms max.

How often do elections take place?
The Internet republic of Ximbolands holds elections every 4 months for Prime Ximbo and 4 months for State Minister.

Where do important discussions take place?
The Forum.

What is the treasury/Prime Ximbos salary?
The treasury/salary is the bank account of the Internet republic of Ximbo land. This figure is transferred to the paypal account of the Prime Ximbo at the end of their 4 month term in charge.

How is the treasury calculated?
The treasury is funded by the Ximbo citizens.
A percentage of the money paid by Ximbo citizens via Paypal and SMS is transferred into the Ximbo treasury. The rest is wisely used for further game development.

What's the national colour of Ximbo land?
Pink

How old must I be in order to become a Ximbo land citizen?
Anyone over the age of 18 are welcome to become a Ximbo citizen.

When are the national holidays of Ximbo land?
Jan 1st ­ New years day
Feb 12th ­ Darwin day
Feb 14th ­ Lovers day
March 8th ­ Womens day
March 21st ­ Spring solstice
April 13th ­ The Hitchslap Day (Christopher Hitchens birthday)
May 3rd ­ National day of reason
June 21st ­ World Humanist Day
Aug 2nd ­ The Internet republic of Ximbo land national day
Sep 21st ­ Peace one day
Dec 25th ­ Newtons birthday

What is the currency of Ximbo land?
The Ximbo Dollar (B$). Currently it is pegged in value to the US$

Who is the President of Ximbo land?
Miss Bimbo is the president of Ximbo land. She founded the bimbo nation in 2007 after escaping the tyranny, bigotry and and conservatism of the old world. You can read more about her here and here

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