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16.04.2015 00:50:02
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Due to a surprisingly popular request, I have been prompted to bring my discussion 'so... do aliens exist, man?' into General Discussion, where it can be discussed more seriously. 
So, in light of that, what are your favourite conspiracy theories? Which ones do you find intriguing and want to learn more about? What thoughts do you have about philosophy of religion or life? Do you have any theories about the universe or the government? Do you think there's life outside of Planet Earth, or even living among us today in secret? 
I'm excited to hear your opinions and thoughts and discuss them with you!
(Just as a side note, I know some topics can become quite controversial to religious or moral beliefs, so please reply to an idea/theory with poise.)

Here are some theories I'm very engrossed in:
The Ancient Astronaut Theory - summed up, the theory that aliens arrived on this planet many years ago and have helped shape man kind. There are different ideas surrounding this theory, but all in all the general idea is that aliens have been on Earth for a long time.The Hollow Earth Theory - Ceres actually brought this up in my previous post and it got me researching it. From what I have found, it's basically the idea that the Earth is hollow in the center and that a highly advanced species of human-like aliens live there, and that the South and North Poles are gateways to this inner-world. The Hollow Moon Theory - What I have gathered, it is the theory that the moon is hollow and contains an extra terrestrial space craft inside of it made of metal, where aliens may/may not live. 9/11 - I know this subject can be a sensitive one. But was it an inside job? There is so much evidence found that it often makes me wonder. This is possibly the most frightening conspiracy theory I have come across. So what do you think? Do aliens exist? Is the government run by lizard creatures dressed in human suits? Has Korea reached Utopia (yes, this is actually a conspiracy theory, albeit a crazy one)? If God exists, is he a God of classical theism? Is the area 51 just a distraction for the real grounds of extra terrestrial and UFO's? Was there really a UFO crash landing in Rosewell, New Mexico? 
Is the truth really out there?



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16.04.2015 01:08:40
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I'm going to take my time with this subject.............  Edits  are assured.

What a wonderful opening Post !!!    It gave me chills to see someone actually open an intellectual topic to debate.
  I'm totally game for Spacy's Idea.
  
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Which topic to tackle first?

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16.04.2015 01:23:23
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As an observer of humanity. I can actually disprove many of the first posts questions.  The questions are sound, however.
Conspiracies rely on dis-information.  They only begin to fall apart when people who know science get involved.  I'm certainly not perfect, but because of my job,  if you ask me about a 'Crash of any sort' and give me that data......  I can tell you my opinion.

  What topic would you like to explore first?
My favorite is 9/11

Mostly because I study aircraft accident reports almost like a religion.
  As a pilot myself, and part of my job.  My truck drivers crash often, and it is good to know how they happen to prevent future occurrences.
The best thing about conspiracies is that they are endless.
9/11 is a perfect example.
  I saw it happen in REAL TIME.
  The Media censored EVERYTHING.

  You want to hear a story of 9/11 ? 
Even I'm to disturbed to this day.  Not by what happened but by the government reply.    This is some sticky Shiite.

  Oh dear, this is so messy  I am even afraid to speak about it......

  America was asleep.
Want the technical data?
I'll only provide that as a reply to a pointed question from a trusted source.  9/11 was a wake up call.  So informative that even the government doesn't want anyone to know the details.  They failed to hide it from me though.  I was able to read reports the day it happened, and see pictures that were scrubbed from the internet on 9/12.  Oh Yeah BABY...  That is some serious cover up.....  but not what is commonly thought.....
9/11 showed a true weakness, in everything.  Most obvious was the American government.
  Of course they want to hide that FACT.
As a government fails, trust the media to lie for them,  In the case of 9/11  they just want the general population to know NOTHING.  America got just that.
"Mischief managed"   (SP? intended)
To borrow a phrase from a brilliant author.

Americans can't handle the truth.  Illegal immigration would upset most of our population.
  How is France doing?
     Oh that might not even be reported ether.
Brie Cheese, smells like S_C_S
Tastes good on bread.  So you have to love your nation.
Fruit of the Loom told me so when I bought my 'big- girl panties'.......
   Be sure to buy cable TV.  Hahahaaaa
 29.99 B$ per month for basic indoctrination sessions.

I know from experience how difficult it is to crash an airliner at full speed into a target.  Believe it or not, every landing is a controlled crash on the ground,  Usually at the same speed as the wings lose 'lift'. (a controlled stall)  9/11 had morons at the controls.  At high speed (420 MPH/GS) they were just lucky, if you can say that was luck.    The bank angles on video proves this to me.    Those were not professional pilots.
 Then comes the controlled demolition theorists.
What idiots.  Mass will seek gravity.  The building failed exactly as it should have.  An implosion is a design feature.   THE LOSS OF LIFE WAS ENORMOUS, yet had the building fallen down in any direction but vertically, the death toll would have been much greater.  Controlled demolition of buildings is sort of a specialty and believe it or not,  it usually only involves a few key structural supports.  An aircraft fully fueled  will destroy anything if it hits it.

I so want to write my report about this,  but it would be so detailed to bore you to death..........
9/11 was an act of war.  Nothing more. Only after the fact did the government make a MESS of the situation.   Terrorist's scored a victory against the entire population of America.  Simple citizens are now treated as criminals in airports.  I wont even step foot in anything but a private Jet now.  I refuse to be molested by TSA. DHS, FBI, CIA, ATF,  the list could continue...
Americans lost all freedom on 9/11
However if you cross the boarder illegally your given food, housing, and drivers licenses.
America has slipped down the Political correctness slope, and has fallen flat on it's face.
  

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17.04.2015 04:44:15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98


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17.04.2015 16:38:05
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I knew I could count on Michelle to find one of the cutest videos, possible.

Such things point out the 'WHY', conspiracies are so easy to believe in.   The truth is out there but you can never find it because too many hands played a part and every single one of them had to destroy records to cover up failings of the hundreds of players involved. Government agencies are to big to fail, RIGHT.  Every government employee had a reason to assist in covering up an act of war.  It's called job security, nothing more  and certainly criminal as much as the attacking force was. Americans will never really know the truth, besides the basic fact it was an act of terror, on a HUGE scale.   I cannot even gain access to the crash reports after more than a decade of time, because it is classified as an ongoing criminal investigation.  How convenient of a way to suppress what is actually supposed to be a public record for anyone to view. 

   Some things are easy to sweep under the rug, and make a proxy war, that after a decade solved nothing.  It made weapons manufacturers trillions of dollars and gave an army a chance to shoot at something, they couldn't even really identify as an opposing army.  Now we have ISIS,  Thanks Obama.  He was warned, when he gave up on the security of the Middle East.  Is it safer now?
I'm glad that finally the right Muslim countries are starting to clean up their own mess.  America was only the symbol of the 'Great Satan', extremist's needed to use to justify terror upon it's own followers, and every Christian anywhere.  Muddy the waters with blood and lies, is a time proven method of control of a population.  Hitler wasn't the only leader interested in genocide and world conquest.  He just mapped out an ideal of hate, and a political structure that could get it done.  ISIS, is not stupid. Just fueled by religious motivation that even the majority of Muslims would fear.
  It would be politically incorrect for an American Christian to say so, though.  ( I could talk at length about the religious aspect)

How weak is America?

Questions swirl over how small aircraft able to land on Capitol lawn without being shot down 


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/04/15/small-aircraft-lands-on-capitol-lawn-pilot-in-custody/
Yes, this happened April 15 2015.
"It flew under the radar" was the governments reply.
A NO FLY ZONE. 
I'd laugh, but it is just to sad to know that my taxes are paying for presidential vacations, bureaucracy, and office parties with prostitutes.
How can you SPOT the difference?

The links are easy to find in ALPHABET soup. Unfortunately America has the attention span of facebookers.....
 ' Oh look an angry  cat photo !!!!  Yeah.'
Photo-shop it with a cute quote an send it to everyone.
Now you went to school in America.
How did it taste as you licked the litter-box?.

Shall I take on the moon NEXT?
Perhaps SweetAsNut's can do the Honor......
 I love to SHARE. :/



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20.04.2015 06:00:20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W6KlZd6Qic


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20.04.2015 21:55:39
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Michelle858B wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W6KlZd6Qic

Another wonderfully done "Video" (in quotes).

Yet as far as a conspiracy goes...  It lacks a certain something I can't quite put my finger on.

It seems more of a case of an angry individual.  Nothing more.
   Where the waters get muddy is the governments attempt to 'save face'. Again it was mostly to hide weakness from the rest of the world.  Not much can really be said about it.  It was an embarrassment, to the government that holes existed in a security plan. A 'dumb' criminal exploited it.  Of course the government had to hide the truth of the matter, and execute quickly.  You must remember it was done by an angry young man with 'post traumatic stress disorder', fresh from fighting in the US Army.  ( You got to love the psychologist who come up with Bull Shit new illnesses.  It's an experience for hells sake, that causes mental trauma,  Drugging it, to fix it is not a good solution.)  Controversial? 
Hell Yes !!!!
  It wouldn't look good, if the bomber was able to tell his side of the story.  If anything it was censorship at it's finest hour.
 The army trained the man after all.  Of course he was young and stupid, and emotionally driven.  Show me a man who isn't......
For all we know now, he was upset he had to make his bed at 5:30 AM during Boot Camp.
 (just a theory BTW, and not even a serious one.)

A better conspiracy to talk about is the medical profession.
 Most notably Drug manufactures.
Every domestic teenage school shooter/murderer has been on one.  No questions about that in the MEDIA, of disinformation and privacy.
  In an age of facebook. It's laughable. 
LOLROF.


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23.04.2015 21:24:52
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People like to tell disinformation. If there is some interasting topic, as you sad for example 9/11, everybody will tell their own opinion,that is something like ''she sad, he sad''. But media try to make of everything as selling as possible topic. They survive like that, on disinformation and lies. They will post whatever they get, they will not even chek the information sometimes. And 9/11 is a moneymakeing topic. They try to get a lot of money that way, and it's sad because people died that day. There are mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers who lost part of their lifes that day. Could you make of it money? Isn't it morbid? That is greed i think....

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27.04.2015 19:50:03
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Greed, motivates every criminal act.

Could it not be said," Every act of theft by deception, is a conspiracy."
" Is every criminal act, Terrorism? "

Words, themselves can Conspire.
In a politically correct world

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30.04.2015 00:49:22
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http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Seven_Deadly_Sins

Mortal sins are sins of grave (serious) matter, where the sinner is aware that the act (or omission) is both a sin and a grave matter, but still performs the act (or omission) with deliberate consent. The act of committing a mortal sin cuts off the sinner from God's grace; it is in itself a rejection of God. If left un-reconciled, mortal sins result in eternal punishment in Hell. Thus, mortal sin is sin causing spiritual death. (Rom. 5:12; 6:23).

In order for a sin to be mortal, it must meet three conditions:
Mortal sin is a sin of grave matterMortal sin is committed with full knowledge of the sinnerMortal sin is committed with deliberate consent of the sinner [1]

Consequently, to be classified as a "mortal sin" a sin must meet the first condition of being a "grave matter", as well as meet the two other conditions. The Seven Deadly Sins are also deemed "grave matter" but can only be "mortal sins" if the two other subsidiary conditions are met.


It is possible to say every act of sin is an conspiracy of soul. The motivation being one's self.  Who profits, when there is a winner, and a loser?

I see clearly conspiracies inside my own extended family.  Plotted against one another for gain or reputation.

The link I included could be a very valuable tool in spotting conspiracies you will see during your lifetime.



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